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Old 14th March 2012, 07:34 PM
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Default Paysafe scam

I replied to an ad on Friday-ad for a Kindle.
I received the following reply

Hi,
Lots of interest on the ad a potential buyer from eBay came around today to see it, he sent a deposit but we couldn't come to an agreement on the price. It's hi's loss and maybe your gain. Will be leaving for work now, my number is 07973425052 low signal strength but you can leave a message. To save time I already packed it and left it with Parcel Force for a possible delivery, put in the original purchase receipt as well. If interested just contact me with questions and we'll take it from there.
Ta,
Carol.

I sent a number of emails. Some of my questions were answered
I was even directed to Carol's google plus profile

Finally I received this one:


The thing is I just started a new job so being busy with work will need to post it. Just to let you know I have a business account with Parcel Force so the charges for delivery will be only a few quid, I'll pay for it. Payment will be made upon delivery, you'll have the chance to inspect the package and void the shipment if not satisfied. Therefore all I need now is a name, full address and a contact number for the agent to call you prior to delivery. I'll book it online as soon as I have the details so send me also a convenient time frame when someone is home to receive it.
Carol.


I decided to buy the kindle and received the following email, purportedly from Parcel force
(but on close inspection from a gmail address email.partner.server3 claiming to be on behalf of parcel-force-team at post.com
Parcel Tracking details
==================
At the request of Carol Andrews, this notice is to confirm that the following shipment is in transit.

Important delivery information
----------------------------------------------
Temporary parcel number: PBIB2024182001 *Pending-Not valid to track online*
Status: In progress(Arrived at delivery depot)
Ships to: My name
my address
my phone number

Payment required within 24 hours:
Instructions:
1. Find a corner shop, newsagent, convenience store, supermarket or outlet that has the PayPoint sign as you can see bellow:

2. Ask the shopkeeper for a £40.00 PAYSAFECARD voucher-*NOTE:You can also use combined values of 1 or more PAYSAFECARD vouchers.
3. Reply to this invoice directly with the 16 digit PAYSAFECARD code printed on the voucher.
4. Our department will automatically validate your voucher and release the parcel out for delivery.
5. The delivery agent will call you on *my phone number* 1 hour prior to delivery. You are able to inspect the contents and if satisfied you will need to sign for it. If not, then a refund will be made within 24 hours and our agent will return the parcel as rejected.


Parcel Force Package Inspection Department
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in and accompanying this communication may be confidential and is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately.
Parcelforce Worldwide is a trading name of Royal Mail Group Ltd. Parcelforce Worldwide's principal office is Lytham House, 25 Caldecotte Lake Drive, Milton Keynes, MK7 8LE. Royal Mail Group VAT registration number: GB243170002
==================

I did not research properly, and was under the impression that I would give the vouchers to the driver on delivery.

Needless to say, no parcel arrived, and when I phoned Parcel Force they informed me that they do not work with Paysafe vouchers.

I phoned Paysafe.
The money had been spent and paid for something through Global Collect BV - clearly nothing to do with Parcel Force.

Money gone, no kindle and feeling very stupid!!
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Old 14th March 2012, 08:45 PM
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How did you pay? if with a debit card you could ask your bank to try a chargeback on it.

You could also go to the police, this is obviously fraud, trading standards need to know too. If the google+ account was the perpetrator, even if not genuine, it can be traced back to the account holder, as can the email account.
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Old 17th March 2012, 09:06 PM
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This is the stupid thing.
I bought paysafe vouchers with cash.
I thought someone needed the physical voucher to cash it.
The scammer was clever enough to ask for the voucher number, when in fact I sent the PIN
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Old 23rd March 2012, 11:13 AM
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Just signed up to say thank you very much for posting this up. I was just in the middle of counting up my money to go and buy a 50 quid paysafe voucher for a digital camera. Googled paysafe and the first thing I saw was this link. Fully fell for it. I did find it a bit strange how the replies I was getting weren't making a huge amount of sense. My conversation was very similar, I'll post the replies for people


Hi Liam,
I can post it. Tomorrow evening is the best I can do if you want to pop in and have a look, I won't go any lower on the price so don't waste your time and money. Can also be reached by phone 07973425112 low signal strength but check my emails regularly.
Ta,
Lynn.


Next -
10 quid for postage. Lots of interest on the ad but unfortunately I got called into work so very busy for the next few days. I've made arrangements with Parcelforce, will drop it off to our local depot and they'll handle delivery for the happy buyer. Got a business account with them so to save cash will use the express 48h large service. Payment will be made upon delivery, you can open the package and void the shipment if not as described without being charged. If it's alright with you I'll need a name, address, contact number and time frame when someone's home. Let me know either way.
Lynn.


I then replied and immediately got an email from 'Parcel Force'.

Just realised as well that the original message sent to them from friday ad that was included in my first reply was to someone called Dexter.

Watch out for this one!
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hia i was one of the lucky ones i went to shop for voucher but shop keeper didnt know which i needed lucky for me and on the way home to see which it was i thought i havent any information address etc on the person selling the item 2, the item was cheap 3,they were only 30 mins away but kept making excuses for me not to collect so thoughts turn to suspision and checked the internet and everything in the mails i recieved was in the scam emails.
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Old 12th April 2012, 08:43 AM
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Many thanks for the heads-up here and I'm sorry that people have been taken in on this

I was halfway through a transaction from a Friday-ads advert for a Canon 40D digital camera. I did get suspicious and checked for a scam and finally stumbled onto this page. Needless to say it was going for about half the eBay rate!

The replies were identical including fake Google+ account and not wanting it to be collected. I did give out my works address as a way of avoiding identity theft issues. Now the scammer has gone quiet on me. I wonder whether to string them along and waste their time so they are not scamming anyone else.

I also got doubly suspicious when replying to an advert for another digital camera a Canon 1D Mark III - at a great price again no less! The standard of English in the advert was excellent. The standard of English in the email replies was, let's say, not great. Also,they clearly had no idea about cameras too. The camera was in London and now surprise, surprise he is in Liverpool with the job. It all adds up to suspicion.

However, no way will I pay for something remotely without seeing it in the flesh. eBay and PayPal do at least give you some protection and this is why scammers are looking at alternative routes.

If the price is too good to be true then it is!

I've reported both ads to Friday-ads as scams. Hopefully they will get pulled and no one else get duped.
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Email from Friday-ads "Thank you for your reports. The adverts have been removed and the account has been blocked."

Yay!
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Old 12th April 2012, 11:52 AM
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Well done, good result although they'll no doubt pop up somewhere else, lets hope people keep checking before buying and come across this thread
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Old 7th May 2012, 04:23 PM
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Got caught out on this scam [ using UKASH ] a few days ago and lost £30 cash through PAYPOINT.E.mails as below were similar to previous scams. ParcelForce confirmed that they did not use UKASH and would never request personal details in an e.mail. Wish I had found this page beforehand but too late now !! Hope this will help someone

“ I won't go any lower on the price so don't waste your time and money. Can also be reached by phone 07973423112 low signal strength but check my emails regularly.
Ta,
Nora.”

“Lots of interest on the ad but unfortunately I got called into work so very busy for the next few days. I've made arrangements with Parcelforce, will drop it off to our local depot and they'll handle delivery for the happy buyer. Got a business account with them so to save cash will use the express 48h large service. Payment will be made upon delivery, you can open the package and void the shipment if not as described without being charged. If it's alright with you I'll need a name, address, contact number and time frame when someone's home. Let me know either way.
Nora.
Will send it along with some company stuff so there's no delivery charge. Great, I've just finished filling out the forms online and Parcel Force will handle payment as well, you'll need cash. You should receive email notifications on how to proceed. Get back to me if you don't receive them and if you have any queries, glad to help.
Nora.
P.S. If not in your inbox check your junk or spam folder also.
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Headed Parcelforce document used with details as below:

Parcel Tracking details
==================
At the request of Nora Alexander, this notice is to confirm that the following shipment is in transit.

Important delivery information
----------------------------------------------
Temporary parcel number: PBIE2554825001 *Pending-Not valid to track online*
Status: In progress(Arrived at delivery depot)

Ships to: Name………………………………………..
Address……………………………………………………….

Payment required within 24 hours:
Instructions:
1. Find a corner shop, newsagent, convenience store, supermarket or outlet that has the PayPoint sign as you can see below:
2. Ask the shopkeeper for a £30.00 UKASH voucher.
3. Reply to this invoice directly with a readable scan or photo copy of the UKASH receipt.
4. Our department will automatically validate your voucher and release the parcel out for delivery.

5. The delivery agent will call you on [ your number ]* ----------------* 1 hour prior to delivery. You are able to inspect the contents and if satisfied you will need to sign for it. If not, a refund will be made within 24 hours and our agent will return the parcel as rejected.


Parcel Force Package Inspection Department
CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in and accompanying this communication may be confidential and is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this communication please delete and destroy all copies immediately.
Parcelforce Worldwide is a trading name of Royal Mail Group Ltd. Parcelforce Worldwide's principal office is Lytham House, 25 Caldecotte Lake Drive, Milton Keynes, MK7 8LE. Royal Mail Group VAT registration number: GB243170002
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Hi

I have just nearly been caught out on this scam too.

I found a wardrobe for sale in Dorset on Gumtree and after contacting her this is how the emails went

[I]"Hi Katie
My Postcode is DT1 1EE and you can dismantle the wardrobe. Tomorrow evening is the best i can do if you want to pop in and have a look. I wont go any lower on price so dont waste your time and money. Can also be reached by phone on 07973 423112 low signal strength but check my emails regularly.
Ta
Nora"
[/I]


i then replied asking for her house number and full address so i can come and view and i had this reply:

"Lots of interest on the ad but unfortunately i got called into work so very busy for the next few days. Ive made arrangements with parcelforce. I will drop it off to our local depot and they'll handle the delivery for the happy buyer. Got a business account with them so to save cash will use the express 48h large service. Payment will be made upon delivery, you can open the package and void the shipment if not as described without being charged. if its alright with you ill need a name, address, contact number and time frame when someone's home. Let me know either way.
Nora"


when i replied with a business address for the delivery i got the following reply

"Booked it for Monday, will send it along with some company stuff so theres no delivery charge. Great, ive just finished filling out the forms online and ParcelForce will handle payment as well, you'll need cash. you should receive an email notification on how to proceed. Get back to me if you have any queries, glad to help.
Nora
P.S if not in your inbox check your junk or spam folder also."


As if by magic i received an email from ParcelForce Worldwide (royal-mail-group@post.com) asking me to either do a transfer or BACS into the following account:

Bank: Barclays Bank
Acct name: ACCA
SC: 20-33-70
Acct No.:40779938


or to reply with my bank details (this is where i thought it was getting dodgy and decided to do some research first and came across this site).

Ive not paid (luckily) and will be contacting GumTree, Barclays & Parcelforce to let them know of this scam.

Luckily for this thread i didn't get caught out and i hope others dont too.

Thanks
Katie
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