Hi, the info here is great! However its not getting me very far with Amazon uk!!
After 22 months, my PS3 suddenly has YLOD - switches straight into standby with a game still inside. Initially I copied and modified Tony's letter viz PS3's and SoGa 1979, and emailed it asking for repair, replacement or refund. They refused. I re-stated SoGa, pointing out that I could obtain an engineers report to prove the unit had failed under normal use, if requested, and as long as they's pay. They refused. I emailed again stressing my frustration at their 'breach of my statutory rights'. This is the reply:
"My name is Stephen Lourdes and I represent the Executive Customer Relations Group within Amazon.co.uk and in this capacity, your correspondence has been brought to my attention.
I am sorry to hear of the difficulty experienced with the Sony Playstation 3 Console (40GB Version) purchased on nth February, 2008 from your order ###########.
The European Directive 1999/44/EC allows for a claim to be taken (under certain circumstances) for a period up to two years in accordance with European Law, and up to six years under UK law.
This does not imply that an item has a warranty of two years or six years respectively. It merely permits an individual to make a claim under certain circumstances within that time period, e.g. should a fault be proved to have been inherent in the first six months.
Amazon do not provide the warranty. We do, however, cover our obligations under the relevant legislation such as the Sales of Goods Act 1979 in the UK. Under the Sale of Goods Act, a consumer is granted recourse against a seller of goods if those goods were defective at the time of purchase. This may include, in certain circumstances, repair, refund or replacement but only to the extent that doing so is not disproportionate to the value of the goods, having regard to the use the customer has already had of the goods and the nature of the goods.
You purchased your product approximately 22 months ago and, until recently, have used it successfully and reported no fault with the product. Given your satisfactory use of the product for a period of time which exceeded the manufacturer's warranty period, it is not established that the product did not conform to the contract (i.e. was defective) at the time of purchase.
In the absence of any additional evidence indicating that this product may have suffered an inherent defect, Amazon.co.uk is not in a position to offer any additional assistance in repairing or replacing your product.
However, although we do not have any obligation to do so under the Sale of Goods Act or otherwise, in this circumstance as a measure of good will we would like to offer you a choice of the following resolutions:
1. An Amazon.co.uk gift certificate to the value of £56.00 GBP.
2. A refund of £42.00 GBP.
Please note that gift certificate funds are only applicable to items being dispatched from and sold by Amazon.co.uk. Orders placed with third party Marketplace sellers do not qualify for use with Amazon.co.uk Gift Certificates.
Please reply directly to this e-mail to confirm if you wish to accept either of these offers as a full and final settlement in this matter and I will make the appropriate arrangements.
Please note as mentioned prior, the manufacturer is often in a better position than the retailer to deal with technical problems affecting their products. Therefore, should you wish to pursue this matter, we would encourage you to contact Sony to see if they are able to provide you with any further assistance. They may be in a position to offer a repair service or could provide you with information on relevant charges for an out of warranty repair: "
Phew! A bit wordy, what!?
Well, its a start. Any idea where I can go from here? I am thinking of repeating my offer of an engineers report to give 'evidence of inherent defect' and possibly pointing out that the Fault is caused by Overheating over time that causes the solder points to fracture - hence ps3's failing 18 - 24 mnths after purchase.
What do you think? Your help is much apreciated.